go up to montclair and piedmont avenue and stop middle class white ladies on their way to the supermarket and ask them to empty their purses and submit to patdown searches. but that's not going to happen. >> let's wait until we get the votes for the contract before you interview him again, all right? >> reporter: listen, you have to ask the guy -- >> i think you did a great interview but that's -- that was our concern. >> reporter: what's the concern there, that he's too truthful in. >> no, that's not it. but those who don't -- who are so opposed to him will just use that as another source of, you see, you see? and they wouldn't take it in full context. >> reporter: that gentleman with the group called geezers against gangs, one of many here in oakland who support "stop & frisk" but this group right here, we are expecting some loud noise perhaps raising a ruckus inside the city council hearing at 5:30. we'll have the latest at 6:00. joe vazquez, cbs 5.